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Rinnai Condensing Verses Navien Condensing
Nov 8th
These are the two heavy hitters in the high efficiency Tankless water heater field. How can you choose the correct tankless, well this article aims to help you choose between the Rinnai Tankless or the Navien Tankless.
| Brand | Rinnai | Navien | Rinnai | Navien |
| Model Nuber | RC98HP | NR240 | RC80HP | NR180 |
| Dimension | 19Wx26Hx11D | 17Wx28Hx15D | 19Wx26Hx11D | 17Wx28Hx14D |
| Weight | 71 lbs | 77 lbs | 64 lbs | 67 lbs |
| Activation Rate (GPM) | 0.4 | 0.5 | 0.4 | 0.5 |
| Min. Input (BTUs,NG) | 9,500 | 17,000 | 9,500 | 15,000 |
| Max. Input (BTUs,NG) | 199,000 | 199,000 | 157,000 | 150,000 |
| GPM @ 77 Rise | 5.0 | 5.0 | 4.0 | 3.8 |
| Thermal Efficiency | 96% | 98% | 97% | 98.8% |
| Energy Factor | 0.94 | 0.97 | 0.95 | 0.96 |
| Type of Venting | Concentric PP | Two Pipe PVC | Concentric PP | Two Pipe PVC |
This chart pits the two main tankless systems that each manufacturer produces, the only row it is missing is reliability. Unfortunately we dont have any scientific data on that but would venture to say that the Rinnai makes the more dependable tankless. This is solely based on comments that we receive here on the site regarding the two tankless manufacturers.
Norits Tankless Water Heater
Mar 22nd
Norits Tankless Hot Water
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We are now starting to install the Norits tankless systems to replace the Navien that we have had some troubles with.
The Norits is a condensing tankless that is able to provide sufficient hot water for the typical 3 bedroom 3 bathroom home.
Nortis Advantages
- 0.5 GPM low flow start up requirement
- Direct ignition
- Condensing so
- Greater than 93% efficient
- Digital thermometer for accuracy
- Dual copper primary heat exchangers
- Multi-system compatibility
- PVC (636) venting capabilities
The Noritz 842 tankless water heater also uses a dual flame in its burner. This is a system that recirculates the exhaust gases back into the combustion chamber to burn off any excess fuel and particulate mater so as to increase efficiency and provide, essentially free heat.
Single Burner
Dual Burner
These energy efficient models use dual heat exchangers to increase efficiency to over 93%. Available form Norits are the N-0842MC and the N-0842MC-DV, the tankless come in either direct or power vent.
Fill out this form and see if the Norits tankless will work in your home. CLICK FOR FORM
Noritz is correctly spelled with a Z instead of an S but its a common mistake.
Takagi Condensing Tankless Review
Mar 16th
Takagi Condensing Tankless
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Here is the Takagi T-H2 Condensing Tankless hot water heater, there’s a lot to cover so lets get started.
Takagi Tankless Benefits
- PVC venting
- 95% efficient
- 4.6 GPM in dead of winter
- 8.5 GPM in the summer
- Direct vent capability
Info
The T-H2 model is available as a direct vent or an Outdoor model only. Takagi’s T-H2 “2nd Generation High Efficiency Tankless” unit, is a very energy efficient tankless unit (up to 95% in thermal efficiency) in the Tankless industry. The T-H2 was apparently designed for residential and light commercial use and offers Takagi’s Easy-Link to join multiple units.
The T-H2 can provide upwards of three showers’ worth of water simultaneously in colder climates.
The T-H2 can be vented with PVC, providing 0 clearance for DV installations. PVC venting can be used in all applications and apparently Takagi says that 3″ exhaust venting is now available (previously it required a 3″ intake and a 4″ exhaust).
The primary heat exchanger is made of “Heat Resistant Alloy” HRS35 Copper, Takagi has also added a “High Corrosion Resistant Stainless Steel” #316L secondary heat exchanger to recover waste heat from the vent stack before it leaves the unit to preheat the incoming ground water. This second heat exchanger and the resulting condensation that forms from the high efficiency operation, classify it as a “Condensing” Water Heater.
Download the official Takagi T-H2 Manual Here. Must have a PDF viewer.
Specifications
| Natural Gas Input | Min. 13,000BTU | Max. 199,000BTU |
| LPG Input | Min. 13,000BTU | Max. 199,000BTU |
| Gas Connection | 3/4″ NPT | |
| Water Connection | 3/4″ NPT | |
| Condensate Water Drain | 1/2″ NPT | |
| Natural Gas Pressure Inlet | Min. 5.0″WC | Max 10.5″WC |
| LP Gas Pressure Inlet | Min. 8.0″WC | Max. 14.0″WC |
| Weight | DV = 73lbs. | |
| Dimensions | 25.6″ x 18.5″ x 12.4″ | |
| Ignition | Electronic Ignition | |
| Electrical Supply | AC 120V (60 Hz) | |
| Water Pressure | Min. 15psi | Max. 150psi |
| T-H2DV Manifold Pressure | Natural: 3.15″WC | Propane:4.6″WC |
As we all know Canada can has winter, and this affects our ground water temperature. The higher the tankless has to heat ground water up the lower the output flow of hot water is. Ontario’s ground water fluctuates with the coldest temperatures occurring in February and the warmest is September. Toronto, Hamilton, Brampton, Scarborough, Mississauga for example are places that rarely see ground water temperatures dip below 40 degrees Fahrenheit. Thus its safe to assume a minimum of 4.6GPM in the worst of conditions.
Download the official Takagi T-H2 specifications sheet here. Must have PDF viewer.
Conclusion
If you are looking for a condensing tankless that is relatively cheap and flexible for installation the Takagi condensing unit is definitely one that you should consider. This unit is $2575 our price and the Suggested Retail is $3920, which is considerably more.
Fill out the form below if you are at all interested in this or any other Tankless Water Heater.
Takagi T-H1 – $2575 Tankless
Mar 10th
T-H1 – $2575.00
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The Takagi T-H1 is a condensing tankless water heater, meaning that it is 95% efficient and qualifies for the full 750$ in government rebates (if you have completed the home energy audit).
Significant benefits of this unit are:
