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Advice on Tankless Water
Mar 19th
Tankless Help
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We have been in this business for quite a while now and these are some of our feelings and issues…..
If you’re out getting quotes for new tankless water heaters and some company or sales person quotes you anything less than 2000 dollars Canadian for the entire job parts & labor, watch out! It’s probably (and likely) to good to be true. There’s a good chance you’re going to be one of the next victim of “To good to be true pricing”. If you do end up having a problem it will cost you twice as much to correct the issue than it would have if you had if you had the unit installed correctly the first time.
Don’t forget about the extra costs, a high quality tankless water heaters system designed for a small home will cost at least 1,200 dollars. You have additional costs also you need to consider when you have decided to make the purchase. Remember…..
- valve kit
- Gas line
- Exhaust piping
- Condensate pump
- Gas termination plates
- Strap hangers
- Water piping
- Brass, and copper fittings
- Electrical outlet (if there’s not one nearby)
On top of that you have the labour, in general a Tankless should be able to be installed in half a day.
The Discount Tankless Water Heater
If a friend or someone you know says they can install a tankless water heater for a “few hundred bucks” remember its not a deal, these systems can be VERY specific in terms of gas or water pressure and it will probably end up costing you more to get a certified installer out to fix the job.
If your father or father in law was a plumber in the Navy 40 years ago, please don’t let him install your tankless water heater!
If a young relative or friend just got out of plumbing school, do not let them install your tankless water heater!
If your getting estimates for a new tankless water heater, and the installer cannot show you at least one picture of a previous tankless water heater installation he or she did, do not hire that person as your installer.
If the sales person shows up at your home and doesn’t bother to look around to make sure the installation will go by checking gas lines, venting location, installation site, etc do not let that person install your new tankless water heater!
Please Note: Tankless water heaters often cannot be installed due to building and plumbing codes in Ontario and Canada, additionally there are specific manufacturing requirements all installs must meet.
DO NOT BUY A TANKLESS WATER HEATER FROM HOME DEPOT OR ANOTHER BIG BOX STORE!!!
The units they offer provide the least hot water on the market. Nearly 65% of all tankless water heater bought from Home Depot were returned (2008 – 2009 figure). People think they’re getting a “good deal” but they most likely will end up with major headaches.
Leave tankless water heaters to the pros.
We install Tankless in Toronto, Tankless in Hamilton, Tankless in Mississauga, Tankless in Etobicoke, Tankless in Richmond Hill, Tankless in Markham, Tankless in Bolton, Tankless in Rexdale, Tankless in Brampton and many other locations.
Follow this link and see if a tankless can even be installed in your home and if it can we can provide a Free quote on a tankless system for you.
The Cold water Sandwich
Mar 23rd
What is the cold water sandwich?
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This sandwich happens when there is warm water for a few minutes then a burst of cold and then rapidly back to warm. This occurs in homes with tankless water heaters as the residual water in the pipes going to a faucet or shower can still be hot. The user in the household will then turn the tap on and feel warm water almost instantly. A tankless water heater takes a few seconds to heat up the heat exchanger and start 
transferring that heat to the water. The result is that a small amount of cold water can make it through the heat exchanger without warming up. When this cold water reaches the end user it may not even be noticed or if the person is in the shower it may be quite evident. After a second or two the heat exchanger is working and hot water is being produced and sent though the hot water pipes bring the desired water temperature again. This does occur more frequently in electric tankless water heaters over gas powered tankless systems. Gas is at full temperature almost immediately where an electric element can take a minute to fully reach its operating temperature.
Now you know what a hot water sandwich is in reference to plumbing and tankless hot water heaters, ask your contractor or installer as there are ways to mitigate this sandwich.
