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Navien Tankless Recall In Ontario – Poisoning Risk – Models and Model Number
Jan 5th
Navien tankless has issued a recall on thousands of tankless systems that have pose a risk of leaking carbon monoxide and poisoning homeowners.
Navien is located in South Korea and has been manufacturing it’s tankless water heater for several years now. There are a suspected 13,000 units with the defect and recalled. An unstable connection can cause the vent collar to separate or disconnect allowing exhaust and carbon monoxide to leak into the home.
Tankless water heaters are a green appliance that is able to heat water instantly saving consumers money and energy. A tankless eliminates the need to have a standing storage hot water tank that needs to be heated continuously.
The affected Navien tankless systems that are being recalled were sold to distributors from February 2008 to March 2009. They have been described as:
Navien tankless hot water heaters are white with “T-Creator” and “NAVIEN” on the front. Recalled model numbers are CR-180(A), CR-210(A), CR-240(A), CC-180(A), CC-210(A) and CC-240(A) manufactured in 2008. A label on the side of the water heater lists the model number along with the manufacturing year in YYYY format.
These units are installed indoors in basements and closets (typically in Canada and the northern US). The units that are installed outside are not affected and not being recalled.
If you discover you have one of these models you can schedule a free repair but should not use the water heater in the mean time. Navien also suggests that a carbon monoxide detector be installed outside the sleeping areas of homes.
For more information you can contact Navien at (800) 244-8202 between 8 a.m. and 5 p.m. PT Monday through Friday.
ecoENERGY Grants and Rebates
Nov 2nd
The ecoENERGY Retrofit for residential homes is creating jobs and helping Ontario residents save money. These changes help to reduce energy bills now and in the
future. BUT you need to act quickly, funding for the grant program is limited and everyones evaluations and retrofits need to be completed before March 31, 2012 or you will missout.
This ecoENERGY retrofit program has a specific section for tankless water heaters as they’re very high efficiency systems compared to what has conventionally been installed in homes. In Ontario you can expect a $375 rebate from the Government if you decided to switch over to a high efficiency tankless.
Several tankless brands are able to deliver the required efficiency and all bring in the full rebate value. If your interested you can read more about the different tankless brands and their specifications below.
Eligibility for the ecoENERGY retrofit program in Ontario
New ecoENERGY Participants – If you or the previous owner of your home didn’t have and energy audit completed between April 1 2007 and June 5 2011 than you are considered a new applicant. All you need to do is sign up and have the initial audit of your home completed – FIND OUT MORE
Past ecoENERGY Participants – If you or the previous owner of your home participated in the program between April 1 2007 and June 5 2011 and the maximum amount of $5000 wasn’t submitted then you can submit another application for upgrades completed on or after June 6 2011.
Popular Items on the Ontario Grant Table
- Furnaces — high-efficiency gas/oil furnace, up to $790
- Central air conditioners — replacement air conditioner $250
- Hot water heaters — high-efficiency gas water heater $375
- Hot water heaters — condensing tankless water heater $375
- Boilers — high-efficiency gas or oil boiler upgrade $750
- HRV — in home heat recovery ventilator $375
- Solar Thermal— installation of solar hot water system $1,250
- Heat pumps — air-source heat pump that doubles as air conditioner $500
- Geothermal — energy-efficient ground or water source heat pumps, up to $4,375
Ontario homeowners also can take advantage of these upgrades
- Attic or roof — insulation up to $750
- Exterior wall — insulation up to $1,875
- Basement — insulation up to $1,250
- Crawl space — insulation up to $1,000
Interested in an Energy Audit and dont know where to start? Start Here and know information is always free!
If your interested in a tankless than you want to Start Here
Servicing areas in and around Hamilton, Brampton, Georgetown, Etobicoke, Toronto, Brantford, Barrie, Vaughan, Maple, Nobleton, Bolton, Rexdale, Unionville, Newmarket, Bradford, King, Port Union.
Navien Tankless Installation In Toronto And Area
Nov 1st
Navien tankless water heaters are 98% efficient and are a qualified energy star partner. With a Navien in Toronto you get the best of both worlds, great value and ultimate savings. A Navien can provide you with endless hot water as the unit will fire only when you want hot water and for as long as you need it.
The lifespan of a Navien is 20 plus years and the manufacture provides a warranty for 15 years on them. By the time your conventional tank type water heater hits 15 years it will be so full of calcium and build up it you will be lucky if it is achieving more than 20% efficiency. Meanwhile if you had had one of our Toronto reps come by and install a tankless your system would still be operating in the high 90% efficiency range.
Servicing the Toronto and area region has shown one thing to us, houses are small and space is important to home owners. A Navien tankless can reduce your water heaters footprint by over 90% as it simply mounts on the wall. Take back some of your space with a tankless heater.
Not all Toronto and area homes can meet the venting and positioning requirements necessary and thus its important to understand the requirements that need to be met. If you live in Toronto or surrounding area we do offer free assesments where some one can come to your home and ensure that a tankless will work for youand your home. Again this is free for Toronto and surrounding areas. Otherwise if your handy you can check out the diagram to see for yourself if a tankless will fit.
Toronto, Ontario
Canadian Tankless Water Heater Websites
Oct 20th
Its funny that most of the major tankless companies dont have canadian version of their websites… Canada is a very natural gas dependant country and thus we have this service in the majority of our homes. You would think that a market of 30 million plus might foster a small investment in a geocentric Canadian content specific website. 
Tankless manufactures know that the further north their product is installed the colder the ground water and the more energy is needed to heat the water up to acceptable temperatures. For the most part all of the major tankless companies have successfully overcome this issue. They certainly should work on advertising and showcasing thier advancements. Canadian tankless manufacture websites would go a long way.
Tankless Manufactures with Canadian Sites
- Rinnai – Rinnai.ca
- John Wood – johnwoodwaterheaters.com (honourable mention for haveing a french version)
Tankless Manufactures Without a Canadian Site
- Bosch
- GSW
- John Wood
- Navien
- Noritz
- Paloma
- Takagi
Rinnai Condensing Verses Navien Condensing
Nov 8th
These are the two heavy hitters in the high efficiency Tankless water heater field. How can you choose the correct tankless, well this article aims to help you choose between the Rinnai Tankless or the Navien Tankless.
| Brand | Rinnai | Navien | Rinnai | Navien |
| Model Nuber | RC98HP | NR240 | RC80HP | NR180 |
| Dimension | 19Wx26Hx11D | 17Wx28Hx15D | 19Wx26Hx11D | 17Wx28Hx14D |
| Weight | 71 lbs | 77 lbs | 64 lbs | 67 lbs |
| Activation Rate (GPM) | 0.4 | 0.5 | 0.4 | 0.5 |
| Min. Input (BTUs,NG) | 9,500 | 17,000 | 9,500 | 15,000 |
| Max. Input (BTUs,NG) | 199,000 | 199,000 | 157,000 | 150,000 |
| GPM @ 77 Rise | 5.0 | 5.0 | 4.0 | 3.8 |
| Thermal Efficiency | 96% | 98% | 97% | 98.8% |
| Energy Factor | 0.94 | 0.97 | 0.95 | 0.96 |
| Type of Venting | Concentric PP | Two Pipe PVC | Concentric PP | Two Pipe PVC |
This chart pits the two main tankless systems that each manufacturer produces, the only row it is missing is reliability. Unfortunately we dont have any scientific data on that but would venture to say that the Rinnai makes the more dependable tankless. This is solely based on comments that we receive here on the site regarding the two tankless manufacturers.
New Submission Form
Nov 5th
Here at the tankless hot water guide we are always striving to make it easier for our users. We have added live help and now a light-box effect on the free evaluation form. Instead of navigating to a new page to submit your info for a tankless it pops up in the same window.
Try it here now. Request a Free Tankless Evaluation
All our service and tankless installation is done in the greater Toronto area, (Brampton, Hamilton, Mississauga, Etobicoke, Maple, Vaughan, Richmond Hill, Markham, Oshawa, Pickering) and all the little towns in between.
If your wondering what the difference between the Rinnai Tankless and Navien Tankless (or any other brand) are try the live help if we are online, otherwise fill out our Request a Free Evaluation and we will call you back ASAP.
Navien Rebates
Oct 19th
Navien Tankless water heaters are available for rebates sponsored by the Ontario Government. These cash incentives have been put in place to help convince you the home owner the switch to a more efficient home water heating system. Newer technology comes with higher costs and these rebates help to offset the cost of a tankless water heater.
So you have decided to go for a Navien tankless water heater, how much can you expect to get back?
Navien Tankless Rebates
- Navien CC-210A – $375
- Navien CC-240A- $375
- Navien CR-180- $375
- Navien CR-180A- $375
- Navien CR-210- $375
- Navien CR-210A- $375
- Navien CC-180A- $375
- Navien CC-210- $375
- Navien CC-240- $375
- Navien CR-240- $375
- Navien CR-240A- $375
- Navien NR-180- $375
- Navien NR-180A- $375
- Navien NR-210- $375
- Navien NR-210A- $375
- Navien NR-240- $375
- Navien NR-240A- $375
Basically all Navien Tankless Water heaters are eligible for the $375 Grant as the they are all condensing units.
Navien makes the most efficient tankless available on the market but be cautious and make sure you are getting a good new generation unit as the old versions had and still have MANY issues (see issues here).
Don’t forget rental tankless systems are still eligible for rebates.
Price out a Rinnai Tankless
Sep 21st
We get a significant number of people looking for Navien Tankless water heaters on this site…. Yes they do have the highest efficiency rating of any tankless BUT… They (in our opinion) are the worst built tankless water heater. If you feel we are wrong check out the comments we get regarding Navien errors and problems HERE or HERE. As you can see there are numerous issues.
Price out a Rinnai Tankless, the rc98hpi is a condensing tankless with a energy factor of 94%. It is a very stable unit with little to no issues. If your looking for stability and reliability they you will probably want to stick with Rinnai or another brand of 
tankless water heaters. But if you want the highest efficient tankless on the market you will want to go with a Navien unit.
Either way we offer access to all units and can get you an installed price quote for which ever way you end want to persue.
Fill out the quick form here and we have someone call you as soon as possible.
Navien Tankless
Sep 16th
The Navien America headquarters was opened in 2006 to service both the US and Canadian markets. Navien is located at 20 Goodyear, Irvine, CA 92618 and can be reached through this number (800-519-8794). Just thought we would add contact info as there are many complaints and issues regarding their products. 
Navien, The actual company, was established in 1978 in Seoul Korea, and for the last 30 years, claims to have produced the most technologically advanced products available. Their products are definitively on the cutting edge but this does come with problems.
Here are the Navien Tankless models
- CC-210A
- CC-240A
- CR-180
- CR-180A
- CR-210
- CR-210A
- CC-180A
- CC-180
- CR-240
- CR-240A
- CC-210
- CC-240
- NR-180
- NR-180A
- NR-210
- NR-210A
- NR-240
- NR-240A
- NP-180
- NP-180A
- NP-210
- NP-210A
- NP-240
- NP-240A
This is all the models of Navien tankless water heaters click to read more about each one.
