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Tankless Hot Water Heaters, Efficient, Effective, Endless.
General Info
Rinnai Condensing Verses Navien Condensing
Nov 8th
These are the two heavy hitters in the high efficiency Tankless water heater field. How can you choose the correct tankless, well this article aims to help you choose between the Rinnai Tankless or the Navien Tankless.
| Brand | Rinnai | Navien | Rinnai | Navien |
| Model Nuber | RC98HP | NR240 | RC80HP | NR180 |
| Dimension | 19Wx26Hx11D | 17Wx28Hx15D | 19Wx26Hx11D | 17Wx28Hx14D |
| Weight | 71 lbs | 77 lbs | 64 lbs | 67 lbs |
| Activation Rate (GPM) | 0.4 | 0.5 | 0.4 | 0.5 |
| Min. Input (BTUs,NG) | 9,500 | 17,000 | 9,500 | 15,000 |
| Max. Input (BTUs,NG) | 199,000 | 199,000 | 157,000 | 150,000 |
| GPM @ 77 Rise | 5.0 | 5.0 | 4.0 | 3.8 |
| Thermal Efficiency | 96% | 98% | 97% | 98.8% |
| Energy Factor | 0.94 | 0.97 | 0.95 | 0.96 |
| Type of Venting | Concentric PP | Two Pipe PVC | Concentric PP | Two Pipe PVC |
This chart pits the two main tankless systems that each manufacturer produces, the only row it is missing is reliability. Unfortunately we dont have any scientific data on that but would venture to say that the Rinnai makes the more dependable tankless. This is solely based on comments that we receive here on the site regarding the two tankless manufacturers.
New Submission Form
Nov 5th
Here at the tankless hot water guide we are always striving to make it easier for our users. We have added live help and now a light-box effect on the free evaluation form. Instead of navigating to a new page to submit your info for a tankless it pops up in the same window.
Try it here now. Request a Free Tankless Evaluation
All our service and tankless installation is done in the greater Toronto area, (Brampton, Hamilton, Mississauga, Etobicoke, Maple, Vaughan, Richmond Hill, Markham, Oshawa, Pickering) and all the little towns in between.
If your wondering what the difference between the Rinnai Tankless and Navien Tankless (or any other brand) are try the live help if we are online, otherwise fill out our Request a Free Evaluation and we will call you back ASAP.
Upgrading your Furnace?
Sep 27th
If your upgrading your furnace why not have the installer put a take off on the gas line. What I mean by that is….
Sometimes on furnace installations the gas piping needs to be replaced or altered in some way. When you negotiate for your deal get them to throw in a natural gas BBQ take off or maybe one for a gas water heater. basically its a T that’s capped but gives you the option to add appliances to your gas line.
Furnace systems are expensive get them to give you a little extra for your hard earned money!
Price out a Rinnai Tankless
Sep 21st
We get a significant number of people looking for Navien Tankless water heaters on this site…. Yes they do have the highest 
efficiency rating of any tankless BUT… They (in our opinion) are the worst built tankless water heater. If you feel we are wrong check out the comments we get regarding Navien errors and problems HERE or HERE. As you can see there are numerous issues.
Price out a Rinnai Tankless, the rc98hpi is a condensing tankless with a energy factor of 94%. It is a very stable unit with little to no issues. If your looking for stability and reliability they you will probably want to stick with Rinnai or another brand of 
tankless water heaters. But if you want the highest efficient tankless on the market you will want to go with a Navien unit.
Either way we offer access to all units and can get you an installed price quote for which ever way you end want to persue.
Fill out the quick form here and we have someone call you as soon as possible.
Rinnai Tankless Water Heaters Bring in the Awards
Sep 20th
Rinnai is the number 1 selling tankless water heater and there is a reason for its success. Rinnai builds stable, efficient, trustworthy units that enable any homeowner to brag about their tankless water heater.
Rinnai has had the honours of receiving accolades from three media outlets recently. The first being Builders Magazine 2010 brand leader in quality. The second is Greenbuilder’s Magazine Hot 50 products of 2010. The last is a nod from Bestcover.com best Whole-House tankless water heater.
Rinnai had this to say,
“We’re thrilled that each of these publications independently found Rinnai worthy of such distinct honors,” said Rinnai America General Manager Phil Weeks. “Builder, GreenBuilder and Bestcovery.com each target a specific segment of our customer base, and these awards communicate to all three audiences that Rinnai is a leader in the tankless industry. Tankless is the future of water heating in North America, so as builders and consumers embrace this new technology, having the endorsement of these influential publications will help instill confidence in our products and the Rinnai brand.”
Rinnai is a subsidiary of Rinnai Corporation in Nagoya, Japan, and was established in 1974. The American headquarters is in Peachtree City, Ga. Rinnai Corporation manufactures gas appliances including tankless water heaters, a wide range of kitchen appliances and heating and air conditioning units. As the technology leader in its industry, Rinnai is the largest gas appliance manufacturer in Japan and is the number one selling brand of tankless gas water heaters in North America. For more information about Rinnai and its entire product line, visit www.rinnai.us
Mike Holmes on Tankless Water Heaters
Aug 16th
Still doubting the validity of a tankless water heaters for your home? Famed home renovation TV star Mike Holmes goes on record saying that the systems just plainly “make Sense”.
Below is a excerpt from the article.
“Environmentally responsible building is opening our eyes to some great, new technologies. But it’s also getting us to take another look at really smart old ideas — such as tankless water heaters.
These have been used in Europe and Asia since the Second World War, but are only now coming into common use in North America. I’m a huge fan of these in-line hot water heaters. They are super efficient, space-saving products that — when installed properly — will last almost forever, cut your energy bill and supply unlimited hot water to your home. You can literally open up your tap, walk away, and still have hot water coming out a month later.
Yes, they cost more initially, and you have to have them installed and calibrated to your household’s use by an expert, but there is no doubt in my mind that you will get your money’s worth.
Tankless water heaters are small — usually not much bigger than an electrical panel. When you turn on a hot water tap, a burner in the unit lights up and instantly heats water in a maze of copper pipe. With the tap open, the water flows through the heated pipes, and within seconds, you have continuous hot water. When you turn off the tap, the burner goes off. The result is you don’t have to heat and store 40 gallons of water in your basement any more. You only heat the water you use, and you have hot water for as
long as you need it.”
You can read the full article here with a lot more tips on how a tankless water heater may be right for your home…. Mike Holmes on Tankless Water Heaters in the Globe and Mail Article
Pipe Sweating
Jul 27th
Pipe sweating is a question that’s been asked numerous times and its an important one to deal with (albeit very tricky).
In all modern homes the basement floor and walls are all wrapped in a thick plastic barrier to prevent moisture from seeping into the home. Unfortunately we all don’t live in new homes and we have work with whats available. Moisture seeps into the basement through walls and floors causing a high humidity environment, any source of cold cause this water to condense. All tankless and tank type water heaters have a cold water line leading to the appliance. This supply line almost always “sweats” and can cause corrosion at a the tankless water heaters connection site.
Your best solution for Pipe sweating?
Wrap your pipes in a rubber or foam pipe insulation this will contain the cold temperatures and prevent sweating along that temperature gradient.
The next best solution is to deal with the issue at its source, this means waterproofing your basement floor and walls, fixing any water leaks that cause additional humidity levels. As a last resort you can look at running a dehumidifier in the basement to bring the moisture levels down even further.
Good Luck and protect your tankless with pipe insulation
Home Owner To do List-Tankless
May 27th
Bosch vs Rinnai Tankless
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When it comes to home improvement there are so many options available. Most homeowners make a mental to do list of the projects that are weekend projects and ones best left to the pros. To do lists are usually placed in order of cost and capability to complete the task. A tankless water heater is a project that is well worth putting at the top of your to do list. We can have REP come out and go over where a unit can be installed and what an install entails. Then you can spend the rest of your Saturday planning on how to use the extra space your old hot water tank took up.
With conventional tank type water heaters there is a strangely long list of things that are not exactly great selling points. Things like, pilot lights that miraculously go out at the most inconvenient times, limited storage capabilities, short life spans, and a loss of energy efficiency due to sludge build up at the bottom of the tank.
The tankless water heater solves a lot of the standard water heater problems. Current water heaters use energy by constantly working to maintain heated water temperatures of 40 to 50 gallons that is not even being used. A tankless system costs 60 percent less to operate than the standard tank because it only heats the water when it is requested by the home owner. Another selling point is the life expectancy of these units, double sometimes even triple to that of the traditional unit.
If you are trying to ‘Go Green’ most tankless water heaters are Energy Star approved. This means that you are not only reducing your carbon footprint by 63 percent compared to the standard unit, you will also be saving energy, and that means real money back in your pocket.
In addition to the money that you are going to be saving on reduced energy bills, the Provincial Government offers tax incentives of up to 30 percent for energy efficiency improvements.
Home Depot Tankless or Rinnai
May 12th
Bosch vs Rinnai Tankless
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There has been quite the buzz regarding tankless water heaters lately. Claims of their superior energy savings and efficiency have been touted by every company pushing the units. Yes they do reduce the amount of gas or propane you use but they also provide endless hot water. If you take a 45 minute shower your more than likely using more energy than you would with a conventional tank that simply runs out of hot water after 20. Yet if you are reasonable and shower for the same duration, you have great potential to see some real energy (and money) savings with a tankless water heater.
Now that you know you want a tankless you have two options…
Option 1 – Go to your nearest Home Depot and purchase one from there, then hire a gas fitter and a plumber to install it
or
Option 2 – Look for a professional tankless installer who has the specialty to preform a stand-up job.
Being the person purchasing the system cost will obviously be a factor and I guarantee Home Depot will be the cheapest option (If cost is your only driving force you should click the link and head to Home Depot now).
For those of you that stuck around I will explain why the second choice is probably the best choice.
Firstly if you call around to a few tankless installers you will quickly realize that none of them sell Bosch tankless heaters (Bosch is the only tankless brand Home Depot sells). The reason why these companies don’t offer this brand is due to the fact they offer extended warranties and guarantees. They are on the line for the products they sell and thus they go with quality products they know will stand up and remain reliable.
Enter Rinnai.
Ask these same tankless installation companies if they sell the Rinnai brand tankless water heater and I bet you find that 99% of them do. Rinnai tankless water heaters are built to last and this is why industry professionals install this brand. Lets compare the Bosch and Rinnai tankless models and see some of the differences.
Bosch Aquastar Tankless Water Heater 1600H compared with Rinnai R75LSi Tankless
Bosch Tankless Verses a Rinnai Tankless
| Bosch 1600H | Rinnai R75LSi | |
|---|---|---|
| Tankless Weight | 33 Pounds | 50 Pounds |
| Power Input (NG) | 30,735-117,000 Btu | 15,000-180,000 Btu |
| CSA Certified | Yes | Yes |
| GPM | 0.6 – 3.5 GPM | 0.6 – 7.5 GPM |
| Energy Factor | 0.8 or 80% | 0.82 or 82% |
| Heat Exchanger | Residential Grade | Commercial Grade |
| Cost or Price | $939 + installation and Vent | $2850 or $39.95 rental |
As you can see there are some definite differences, probably the most glaring is the amount of hotwater that can be provided. The Rinnai is able to produce more than twice as much, meaning you won’t run into problems when running more than one appliance or faucet..
Of course this doesn’t take into account all the benefits that you get from a professional install like:
- Proper venting, tankless systems have very specific code requirements
- Correct sizing so that you always have enough hot water
- Additional warranty and workmanship guarantees
- Maintenance guarantees, service plans, and emergency tech service.
Sure any Ontario Home Depot has the cheapest system but I hope I clarified why they’re some much cheaper. Now those of you still left reading option 2 and didn’t click on the Home Depot link you are obviously interested in a tankless. These systems can’t go in every home due to venting issues so we send out a technician to make sure everything will work and what size tankless your home would need. This is a free service, so just fill out the form below and we will call you to schedule a time for someone to come by. Typically only 15-20 minutes.
Technicians are fitting and sizing tankless water heaters in all of the greater Toronto area as well as, Hamilton, Burlington, Oakville, Etobicoke, Mississauga, Rexdale, Richmond Hill, Vaughan, Markham, North York, Scarborough, Im sure I have missed some cities but you get the idea, if in question just send us an email.
